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your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the discussions were handled through the intelligence agencies here within the egyptian government. now we see the intelligence agencies talking to the israeli side where they have long-standing contacts and the office of the president, president muhammed morsi of the muslim brotherhood who of course is a long-time fellow islamist ideological ally of hamas, handling the other side. so there are all these talks within the egyptian government to parallel the talks between hamas and israel. what we're seeing the egyptian government begin to do which is i think really ver
your view from egypt, obviously very changed situation in egypt. fuad saying there is rhetoric in support of hamas, in the end [ inaudible ] like many here in gaza would hope. what do you see? >> i think that's right. there is only so much that egypt could do. what they're trying to do is getting more and more complicated. president mubarak used to hold himself out as a kind of honest broker between hamas and israel. he wasn't, really. he was on the israeli side, more or less, and all the...
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he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of the united states in this crisis, you are always told oh, they're on the phone. so it is phone diplomacy for the united states, and that's about all. >> reporter: ann marie slaughter, do you agree with that? should the u.s. be doing more here? >> well, at this point, it's not really clear what the u.s. can be doing because although the egyptians and the turks and the qataris all have a big incentive to see a cease-fire that lasts, and i think the u.s. does, too. none of us can want it more than the israeli and the palestinians do. you can't create a settlement unless the principles act
he made this remark when he said hey, look, egypt of today is not the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not the arab world of yesterday. but i think there are some real limits as well on the egyptians. one thing that we have to say since we're really beginning to talk about diplomacy, our president is in, i think, now in cambod cambodia. he has with him his secretary of state and his national security advi adviser. it's a remarkable development. when you ask, what is the role of...
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they for instance monopolize the tunnel trade to egypt. they tax everything that goes through, nobody can dig a tunnel, operate a tunnel, without paying taxes officially or unofficially so there's a feeling that hamas is in a sense turned gaza into its own business. >> do people know where all the rocket batteries are? do people know where hamas is? we ourselves are trying to figure out well, is there hamas in a building where we are, there might be a strike. do people know everything about the locations of hamas installations? >> you have to keep in mind gaza's a small place. 1.5, 1.7 million people. everybody, everybody here seems to know everybody else and know who their family is and what their family background is. so people have a good idea of who is hamas and who isn't. on the other hand, they do sort of move in this society, they're not strangers. they're palestinians, they're gazans like everybody else. they do have an ability to sort of slip around and not be -- and sort of conceal their identity. but people are very aware of sor
they for instance monopolize the tunnel trade to egypt. they tax everything that goes through, nobody can dig a tunnel, operate a tunnel, without paying taxes officially or unofficially so there's a feeling that hamas is in a sense turned gaza into its own business. >> do people know where all the rocket batteries are? do people know where hamas is? we ourselves are trying to figure out well, is there hamas in a building where we are, there might be a strike. do people know everything...
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into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these rooms, is there yelling or arguments or is it calm and rational? >> in my case, almost all of the di discussions were with one side at a time. there were few occasions of raised voices. the two did not come together. when we did have the brief meeti meetings between the prime men ster and the president, they were tense and straight forward. they made their points both sides. it will be some time before you get a representative in the same room. tough enough to get them in the same room with the palestinian authority which i say is c
into the tunnels through egypt. that is not new. the nearly three years that i was there, that was a constant subject of discussion and controversy. this is a vast territory, much of it desert. not well policed and governed. a lot of competing local interests. those are contrary to those in some cases here. egypt is under taking a major role here and how they are able to succeed in that goes a long way to how the process goes forward. >> this may be a dumb question, when you are in these...
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egypt made a positive contribution to realizing the cease-fire, but, yes, egypt has a role also in blocking the flow of smuggled arms from iran. through sudan or libya. both roots pass through egyptian territory before arriving in gaza. >> according to the terms vt cease-fire, the under lying cease-fire, it will be addressed after 24 hours of the cease-fire being in effect. to be clear, if we see no sign of aggression from gaza within 24 hours, issues will be built with immediately thereafter? >> it will certainly be discussed. certainly be discussed. we've had our border crossings open to gaza for virtually every type of material. no food shortage, medical shortage, for certain materials which we call dual use, like aluminum tubing that can also be used to make missiles. that was passed on to nongovernment or u.n. organizations we can trust. a big question about the border between gaza and egypt and the degree to which that will be open as well. >> according to senior obama administration official, it was president obama's two phone calls today that "closed the de deal." is that accurate t
egypt made a positive contribution to realizing the cease-fire, but, yes, egypt has a role also in blocking the flow of smuggled arms from iran. through sudan or libya. both roots pass through egyptian territory before arriving in gaza. >> according to the terms vt cease-fire, the under lying cease-fire, it will be addressed after 24 hours of the cease-fire being in effect. to be clear, if we see no sign of aggression from gaza within 24 hours, issues will be built with immediately...
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the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist wage in the region and they see the islamist government in tunisia and they look around and see turkey hovering over the region with an islamist government and they feel the wind is blowing their way. >> do you think it is blowing their way? >> not at all because in the end the hamas people would be fooling themselves and the palestinians would pay the price for this kind of folly because the arab world is not going to march to the tune of hamas. the saudi monarchy, if you listen to what's happening and what's coming out of saudi arabia, the only thing the saudi monarch said was we need the rule
the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist...
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egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to really change much of anything, and now the president who didn't want to get involved for a while or found that it was kind of useless not going anyplace is involved by sending dramatically the secretary of state. >> at some point, do you see the recognition of some sort of hamas? >> no, but i really have to disagree with my friend fuad. i don't think it's right to say barack obama is not pulled by the middle east and isn't fully committed to the same vision of peace between the israelis and the palestinians that bill clinton and george w. bush were. i think he has been
egypt has certainly been in the forefront of these kinds of talks? >> yeah, that's what she's doing doing. meeting tonight, two hours with benjamin netanyahu, and senior officials, foreign minister, et cetera. and then she goes tomorrow, wednesday, to ramallah, where she meets with mahmoud abbas and cairo. and that's really the key, one of the keys, because the -- mohammed morsi has influence wih hamas and hopefully can do something. i think that he's right. they haven't been able to...
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there's a big question about the border between gaza and egypt. the agreement with that will be opened as well. >> according to a senior obama administration official, it was the president's -- president obama's two phone calls today that, quote, closed the deal. is that accurate according to your understanding of how things played out? and what did the u.s. offer to various parties in order to maybe sweeten the deal? >> well, president obama played an outstanding leadership role in helping to achieve the cease-fire. also secretary of state clinton who shuttled without stop between jerusalem and cairo and was also instrumental in achieving the agreement. the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportu
there's a big question about the border between gaza and egypt. the agreement with that will be opened as well. >> according to a senior obama administration official, it was the president's -- president obama's two phone calls today that, quote, closed the deal. is that accurate according to your understanding of how things played out? and what did the u.s. offer to various parties in order to maybe sweeten the deal? >> well, president obama played an outstanding leadership role in...
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there have always been historic ties between gaza and egypt. egyptians are very sensitive to everything that goes on in gaza. >> many tunnels from egypt go into gaza to get supplies. >> absolutely. in fact, under mubarak it was much easier because mubarak couldn't care less about hamas. this is a very different issue here, because the muslim brotherhood in egypt really is the mothership, if you will, of hamas and other such organizations. but what will the egyptians do. they have recalled their ambassador from israel and they have told their people that look, president morsi is talking to president obama about bringing the fighting to a halt so that's one thing that we can look forward to. one thing that's very important, tomorrow is friday. there has already been calls for massive demonstration, a million people march, in cairo against the israelis. i think this will be the one country and the one theater to watch. >> fuad, thank you. sara, stay safe. thank you very much. let us know what you think. >>> up next, former cia director david petra
there have always been historic ties between gaza and egypt. egyptians are very sensitive to everything that goes on in gaza. >> many tunnels from egypt go into gaza to get supplies. >> absolutely. in fact, under mubarak it was much easier because mubarak couldn't care less about hamas. this is a very different issue here, because the muslim brotherhood in egypt really is the mothership, if you will, of hamas and other such organizations. but what will the egyptians do. they have...
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so egypt is undertaking a major role here. and how they're able to succeed in that will go a long way towards deciding how much the whole process moves forward. they're to be commended for what they have done so far. >> this may be a dumb question and naive question, but when you're in the negotiations, is there yelling, arguments, or is it very kind of calm and rational? >> well, in my case, almost all of the discusses were with one side at a time. they wouldn't talk to each other. so while there was a little -- few occasions of raised voices, the two did not directly come together. when we did have the brief meetings between prime minister netanyahu and president abbas, they were tense and direct and straightforward. i wouldn't say yelling, but they made their points very strongly, both sides. it will be some time i think, before you will get an israeli representative in the same room with a representative from hampton, they are committed to nonviolent negotiations. >> and i'm curious, sometimes as a reporter when you interv
so egypt is undertaking a major role here. and how they're able to succeed in that will go a long way towards deciding how much the whole process moves forward. they're to be commended for what they have done so far. >> this may be a dumb question and naive question, but when you're in the negotiations, is there yelling, arguments, or is it very kind of calm and rational? >> well, in my case, almost all of the discusses were with one side at a time. they wouldn't talk to each other....
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egypt has recalled its ambassador to israel. in the meantime, the u.s. state department condemned the strikes fired from gaza and supporting israel's right to defend itself. i talked about all of this with sara sidner and also david kirkpatrick of "the new york times" and cnn's fareed zakaria. what is the latest on the attacks and the fallout? >> what we are seeing are more rockets coming into israel. there have been dozens of air strikes, as well since the killing of ahmed al jabarry, who is the leader of hamas' military wing, but he is also one of the founders of hamas. we are talking about a huge blow to hamas, and now the government there in gaza. israel is also telling us, and we've just heard this from its military spokesperson, that they are bringing in reservists, but they are considering a ground war, but have not yet given the go-ahead for that, but they are preparing. we know that they have been firing with the air with the air strikes, but we also know that they have been firing from the sea. their ships are anchored just off of the sea there
egypt has recalled its ambassador to israel. in the meantime, the u.s. state department condemned the strikes fired from gaza and supporting israel's right to defend itself. i talked about all of this with sara sidner and also david kirkpatrick of "the new york times" and cnn's fareed zakaria. what is the latest on the attacks and the fallout? >> what we are seeing are more rockets coming into israel. there have been dozens of air strikes, as well since the killing of ahmed al...
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egypt has, in fact, i think hamas will go out. but if egyptians are telling hamas, we got the muslim brotherhood, and we've got to find a way out of this, with some stability intact, that's going to be a whole different outcome. >> fareed, how do you see this? >> no question, it's justified. the attacks were out of gaza by hamas, were completely -- they had gone crazy in temps of the scope, intensity, and hamas was openly taking credit for them, rather than disavowing them. the problem, netanyahu people, bibi and barack, they have a tactical approach. hitting back and trying to do this. israel has invaded gaza, and they have economically choked gaza, they have succeeded. they have overwhelming force. what is the strategy to deal with gaza? how does this help israel in its long-term strategy? how does it play out with the regional strategy where israel's relations with egypt have deteriorated. ity relations with turkey has deteriorated. no question, it's justified. is it smart? >> real concern about regional instability. >> if you
egypt has, in fact, i think hamas will go out. but if egyptians are telling hamas, we got the muslim brotherhood, and we've got to find a way out of this, with some stability intact, that's going to be a whole different outcome. >> fareed, how do you see this? >> no question, it's justified. the attacks were out of gaza by hamas, were completely -- they had gone crazy in temps of the scope, intensity, and hamas was openly taking credit for them, rather than disavowing them. the...
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this is time egypt doesn't have. there is a real interest in moving forward and creating solutions to the many problems left behind by the mubarak era. the problem throughout the region where you see changes is the deep polarization between islamic parties and secular forces and both sides deeply afraid the other side is going to create an islamic regime or take the countries that have undergone democratic transitions back into ought accuratetic rule. >> steven, you say president morsi and the muslim brotherhood after spending decades being sidelined they're terrified of losing power. beyond that, is there much clarity about their motives in recent days? >> there doesn't seem to be. the muslim brotherhood is a very opaque organization. it's decades out of power and just months in power. this seems to have been a misstep, a misjudgment. the question is, what were the motivations behind it? was it as some have suggested that morsi was feeling confident riding a wave of international approval after brokering a cease-fir
this is time egypt doesn't have. there is a real interest in moving forward and creating solutions to the many problems left behind by the mubarak era. the problem throughout the region where you see changes is the deep polarization between islamic parties and secular forces and both sides deeply afraid the other side is going to create an islamic regime or take the countries that have undergone democratic transitions back into ought accuratetic rule. >> steven, you say president morsi...
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with egypt at the back hamas will go all out. if they are telling hamas we are have the brother hood. and we have to find a way out of this with stabbility in tact that is going to be a different outcome. >> i think there is no question it was justified. the attacks, they had gone crazy in terms of the scope and intensity. the problem is that the people there, they have a tactical approach here. they are hitting back and have been trying to do this. israel has invaded gaza and these are tactical moves and they succeed. but what is the strategy to deal with gaza? how does this help and how does it play out with the regional strategy? so, i think there is no question it is just fied, the question is, is it smart? is. >> there is real concern and if you don't have cooperation, ultimately you can't control gaza. this undermines the authority and probably is going to undermine the un path which it might like because it shows that the palestinians are divided. we spoke to the prime minister. how big should this be for the us? the admin
with egypt at the back hamas will go all out. if they are telling hamas we are have the brother hood. and we have to find a way out of this with stabbility in tact that is going to be a different outcome. >> i think there is no question it was justified. the attacks, they had gone crazy in terms of the scope and intensity. the problem is that the people there, they have a tactical approach here. they are hitting back and have been trying to do this. israel has invaded gaza and these are...
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there had been rioting in egypt and of course, this is the contradictory thread of the narrative here, that it was riots that -- in egypt that led to the attack on the embassy in libya on the consulate in libya. so he's going to talk about having these two threads of information but his sense right from the start that it was a terrorist attack by answar al sharia. a pretty murky group, loose collection of characters. >> this is interesting to me. just to be clear, your source is saying general petraeus knew almost immediately or felt that it was a terrorist attack, knew the group involved, even though he told members of congress three days after the attack that it could have been spontaneous and there's also the statement made by the director of national intelligence on the dni the end of october who put out a statement saying in the wake of criticism of ambassador rice, saying that early reports indicated it might have been linked to -- might have been a spontaneous demonstration and ambassador rice went out on sunday saying -- five days after, saying it was possibly -- early reports
there had been rioting in egypt and of course, this is the contradictory thread of the narrative here, that it was riots that -- in egypt that led to the attack on the embassy in libya on the consulate in libya. so he's going to talk about having these two threads of information but his sense right from the start that it was a terrorist attack by answar al sharia. a pretty murky group, loose collection of characters. >> this is interesting to me. just to be clear, your source is saying...